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GaryVee x Poppi Co-Founder: The Only Marketing Video You Need To Watch | Fiserv w/ Allison Ellsworth

How Poppi's founder and Gary Vaynerchuk built brand loyalty by chasing real attention, not potential reach.

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PodcastGaryVeeDecember 17, 2025

Overview

Gary Vaynerchuk and Poppi co-founder Allison Ellsworth break down what separates brands that actually build audiences from those that only buy exposure. The conversation covers the structural mistakes large companies make in marketing, how Poppi developed its brand identity and expanded its audience without alienating its core, and why organic social engagement and community response are more valuable than most paid media. Practical frameworks for small business owners run throughout.

Key takeaways

  • Potential reach and actualized reach are not the same; most big-brand ad spending never captures real attention.
  • Great marketing behind a bad product accelerates failure by making sure everyone learns the product is poor.
  • The 80/20 budget rule — plan 80% to known moments, leave 20% for fast, culturally relevant opportunities.
  • Expanding to new audiences does not require changing your core brand feed or identity visibly to existing fans.
  • Replying to every comment and DM is the single highest-leverage community-building tactic available at no cost.

Worth quoting

  • "All that good marketing does against a bad product is speed up everyone knowing that your product sucks."
  • "I could give a damn about social media. I care about attention. And attention happens to be at scale in social right now."
  • "Humility is the secret weapon of the successful."
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